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		<title>Comment on Tech 20 Season 2 Session 7 by jciccoianni</title>
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		<dc:creator>jciccoianni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing this great tool!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Podcast #14  &#8220;Must Not Talk about the Droid!&#8221; by jciccoianni</title>
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		<dc:creator>jciccoianni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg-- just RSS&#039;ed you after the diocesan in-service last week.  I enjoyed your presentation on platforms and paradigms.  Thanks for the podcasts, too.  Been catching up in the archive.  Glad to see you&#039;re using Kevin MacLeod&#039;s music from incompetech.com.  I&#039;ve been using his stuff for years.  Keep up the great work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg&#8211; just RSS&#8217;ed you after the diocesan in-service last week.  I enjoyed your presentation on platforms and paradigms.  Thanks for the podcasts, too.  Been catching up in the archive.  Glad to see you&#8217;re using Kevin MacLeod&#8217;s music from incompetech.com.  I&#8217;ve been using his stuff for years.  Keep up the great work!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Tech 20 Season 3 Session 4 by Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The information presented in this session was significantly beneficial. Thanks for the information on the student discount. Saved more by attending this session than a month of coupon clipping.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Fencing in an Expanding Universe by Alex Guichet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Guichet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 22:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your ideas of Web 2.0 (or what remains of it) as being a good resource. I see tons of potential in the use of netbooks and wikis. I&#039;m also an excellent (or poor, seeing as how you look at it) example of a student who blogs (http://alexguichet.com) and twitters (http://twitter.com/cptcobalt). I do, however, think that students blogging and twittering will not be a good school resource.

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For example, on twitter, your updates are limited to 140 characters. Here are a few example tweets I expect students to make: (the @name here is twitter&#039;s own reply format)

1)&quot;@gdhuyvetter Do students have spirit dress today&quot;

2) &quot;@cptcobalt Can you help me with #4 on tonight&#039;s math homework?&quot;

Now things like this, by virtue, are good at first glance. But look and see how this can go wrong:

1) No school administrator would want to be pummeled with hundreds of messages like this. This explains itself.

2) Now this is the tricky one. At first glance, this is clearly a good use of the twitter service. But messages are limited to 140 characters. And that even counts for any reply statements or #materdei voodoo we may have. So in reality, we&#039;re limited to 120-130 characters. Lets try to answer the question in that same 120 characters:

@twitter To solve number 4, first try multiplying both sides of the equation by three. This will leave you with 4x = 120. Now divide both sides by 4. This will give you your answer.

FAIL. Now that was an excellent use of the service, but it had 181 characters, 41 too many. I&#039;m pretty sure students will feel discouraged or impacted by this limit (I know I would) and simply just send the answer.

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I think class blogs (read: not only one student) and wikis would be an excellent resource. For example, in Mrs. Rydjeski&#039;s Junior British Literature class (blk3), we have a review tool called &quot;The Log&quot;. The log is our way, that if we have missed a day of school, to go back and look at that day&#039;s notes. A student does the log, and if the log is up to par, Mrs. Rydjeski will grant pardon on one unpreparedness point. This encourages students to not only do the work, but also do a fine job of it too. You can go into her class, open up the binder that contains the log, and easily see what EXACTLY we did that day in class.

This would be a much better tool to have online on a wiki. For example, anyone in class that day can contribute articles and info to the wiki. If we talk about a kenning (running joke) in a class, a student can show what page and line we found the kenning on in the kennings page of the wiki. And at the end of the semester, Mrs. Rydjeski (or any teacher) can go through and view the entries or revisions students have made, and then distribute points or other prizes for it.

It is, without argument, the best way to &quot;upgrade&quot; a daily log or to take notes in class.

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But you do bring up a good point. You cannot, in good thought, implement any of this without being absolutely sure your students are safe.

MySpace and Facebook are definitely out of the question. The messages and conversations exchanged on there are private and unreadable for anyone except the intended recipient. You have no idea to track what a teacher or student may be doing.

Twitter is slightly better on this regard because all messages are public. You CAN protect your updates, but there is no way to selectively distribute updates to any one person. Even the @replies are viewable.

But a blog or wiki blows everything else out of the water. All of the edits can be seen by everyone. You can easily track the joker student who blanks a page and replaces it with an inappropriate word (a la wikipedia) and give him the proper consequences. Nothing can be hidden from a blog or wiki.

And ironically enough, blogs and wikis, which have to be school sponsored (to an extent) are definitely the safest to use.


These are just my thoughts based on my &quot;enlightened&quot; student point of view.

Alex Guichet
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your ideas of Web 2.0 (or what remains of it) as being a good resource. I see tons of potential in the use of netbooks and wikis. I&#8217;m also an excellent (or poor, seeing as how you look at it) example of a student who blogs (<a href="http://alexguichet.com" rel="nofollow">http://alexguichet.com</a>) and twitters (<a href="http://twitter.com/cptcobalt)" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/cptcobalt)</a>. I do, however, think that students blogging and twittering will not be a good school resource.</p>
<p>&#8211;</p>
<p>For example, on twitter, your updates are limited to 140 characters. Here are a few example tweets I expect students to make: (the @name here is twitter&#8217;s own reply format)</p>
<p>1)&#8221;@gdhuyvetter Do students have spirit dress today&#8221;</p>
<p>2) &#8220;@cptcobalt Can you help me with #4 on tonight&#8217;s math homework?&#8221;</p>
<p>Now things like this, by virtue, are good at first glance. But look and see how this can go wrong:</p>
<p>1) No school administrator would want to be pummeled with hundreds of messages like this. This explains itself.</p>
<p>2) Now this is the tricky one. At first glance, this is clearly a good use of the twitter service. But messages are limited to 140 characters. And that even counts for any reply statements or #materdei voodoo we may have. So in reality, we&#8217;re limited to 120-130 characters. Lets try to answer the question in that same 120 characters:</p>
<p>@twitter To solve number 4, first try multiplying both sides of the equation by three. This will leave you with 4x = 120. Now divide both sides by 4. This will give you your answer.</p>
<p>FAIL. Now that was an excellent use of the service, but it had 181 characters, 41 too many. I&#8217;m pretty sure students will feel discouraged or impacted by this limit (I know I would) and simply just send the answer.</p>
<p>&#8211;</p>
<p>I think class blogs (read: not only one student) and wikis would be an excellent resource. For example, in Mrs. Rydjeski&#8217;s Junior British Literature class (blk3), we have a review tool called &#8220;The Log&#8221;. The log is our way, that if we have missed a day of school, to go back and look at that day&#8217;s notes. A student does the log, and if the log is up to par, Mrs. Rydjeski will grant pardon on one unpreparedness point. This encourages students to not only do the work, but also do a fine job of it too. You can go into her class, open up the binder that contains the log, and easily see what EXACTLY we did that day in class.</p>
<p>This would be a much better tool to have online on a wiki. For example, anyone in class that day can contribute articles and info to the wiki. If we talk about a kenning (running joke) in a class, a student can show what page and line we found the kenning on in the kennings page of the wiki. And at the end of the semester, Mrs. Rydjeski (or any teacher) can go through and view the entries or revisions students have made, and then distribute points or other prizes for it.</p>
<p>It is, without argument, the best way to &#8220;upgrade&#8221; a daily log or to take notes in class.</p>
<p>&#8211;</p>
<p>But you do bring up a good point. You cannot, in good thought, implement any of this without being absolutely sure your students are safe.</p>
<p>MySpace and Facebook are definitely out of the question. The messages and conversations exchanged on there are private and unreadable for anyone except the intended recipient. You have no idea to track what a teacher or student may be doing.</p>
<p>Twitter is slightly better on this regard because all messages are public. You CAN protect your updates, but there is no way to selectively distribute updates to any one person. Even the @replies are viewable.</p>
<p>But a blog or wiki blows everything else out of the water. All of the edits can be seen by everyone. You can easily track the joker student who blanks a page and replaces it with an inappropriate word (a la wikipedia) and give him the proper consequences. Nothing can be hidden from a blog or wiki.</p>
<p>And ironically enough, blogs and wikis, which have to be school sponsored (to an extent) are definitely the safest to use.</p>
<p>These are just my thoughts based on my &#8220;enlightened&#8221; student point of view.</p>
<p>Alex Guichet<br />
Grade 11</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fencing in an Expanding Universe by Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 23:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that I may have mashed up two different types of concern.

I don&#039;t claim that we have responsibility for students&#039; online activities outside of school time beyond our care for them as persons.  I do see this concern as a challenge that we are facing and one that can cause some parents and teachers to take a &quot;the Internet is bad...period&quot; stance.

We do drift into responsibility when we assign a student to participate in a social medium.  A teacher who sets up a site for class discussions has responsibility for what is said and the behavior of all involved, the same as in a classroom.
From a school perspective (and I am not talking as a lawyer here, just &quot;logic-ing&quot; it out) activities in the classroom are the school&#039;s responsibility.  Recognizing that absolute vigilance (read omniscience) is impossible, there is an expectation of reasonable monitoring and awareness of what is going on.  Because of this, a teacher would not be allowed to meet with his or her students at a restaurant or at a home because reasonable monitoring could not take place.  In the same way, communication between teacher and students on a non-school website without the possibility of administrative oversight has the potential of creating liability for teacher and school.
This was (I think) the real dilemma that I was examining...even if I muddled it a bit.

I agree completely with your extension of the driver metaphor.  I was speaking globally there, not suggesting that high school students are new to this.  I do think that there are age levels that can learn better in this sheltered environment, but this is more important for younger students.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that I may have mashed up two different types of concern.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t claim that we have responsibility for students&#8217; online activities outside of school time beyond our care for them as persons.  I do see this concern as a challenge that we are facing and one that can cause some parents and teachers to take a &#8220;the Internet is bad&#8230;period&#8221; stance.</p>
<p>We do drift into responsibility when we assign a student to participate in a social medium.  A teacher who sets up a site for class discussions has responsibility for what is said and the behavior of all involved, the same as in a classroom.<br />
From a school perspective (and I am not talking as a lawyer here, just &#8220;logic-ing&#8221; it out) activities in the classroom are the school&#8217;s responsibility.  Recognizing that absolute vigilance (read omniscience) is impossible, there is an expectation of reasonable monitoring and awareness of what is going on.  Because of this, a teacher would not be allowed to meet with his or her students at a restaurant or at a home because reasonable monitoring could not take place.  In the same way, communication between teacher and students on a non-school website without the possibility of administrative oversight has the potential of creating liability for teacher and school.<br />
This was (I think) the real dilemma that I was examining&#8230;even if I muddled it a bit.</p>
<p>I agree completely with your extension of the driver metaphor.  I was speaking globally there, not suggesting that high school students are new to this.  I do think that there are age levels that can learn better in this sheltered environment, but this is more important for younger students.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fencing in an Expanding Universe by Mark Mulholland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Mulholland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 22:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps I am being overly cynical but what are our concerns about safety when students are working on the internet?  If they are being cyber-bullied or people are preying on them, how are they at risk in any different way while doing school-related work (especially in High School) than when they are at home on MySpace or Facebook?  Of course, if they were being introduced to the Internet by us at MDHS first, we might need to teach them more about how to be safe out there but (to extend the metaphor to the breaking point) I think that we are just getting drivers who have had their licenses for the last 4 to 8 years and are now in their 20s driving (perhaps on longer trips than before?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps I am being overly cynical but what are our concerns about safety when students are working on the internet?  If they are being cyber-bullied or people are preying on them, how are they at risk in any different way while doing school-related work (especially in High School) than when they are at home on MySpace or Facebook?  Of course, if they were being introduced to the Internet by us at MDHS first, we might need to teach them more about how to be safe out there but (to extend the metaphor to the breaking point) I think that we are just getting drivers who have had their licenses for the last 4 to 8 years and are now in their 20s driving (perhaps on longer trips than before?).</p>
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		<title>Comment on I had an Idea&#8230; by Catherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In terms of using Skype.  I have had to use Skype as part of a technology course required for the masters program I am taking.  Skype does not always work flawlessly.  Camera capture speed and internet connection speed are important issues to consider when using Skype and iChat.  I use iChat (the mac internet video conferencing program) with my daughter who is at Cal Poly SLO. My daughter uses iChat with her friends in Hawaii and N.Y. and often experiences poor connections, disrupted streaming, etc.  When these types of video conferencing are used socially, the importance of uninterrupted connection is not as important as when it is used in a classroom situation where it can be disrupptive and frustrating. Yes, there are a few classroom applications where it might be worth incorporating this technology into a lesson, but I agree with Patrick, it should not be used just because it is technology.
As for students who have missed a lecture or demonstration; a better way to address that would be to create a podcast that students could access. Or for teachers to investigate and use some of the excellent podcasts that are already avaliable at iTunes U. One of the greatest advantages of the computer and Internet is the ability to find and use what is already out there rather than trying to &#039;reinvent the wheel&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In terms of using Skype.  I have had to use Skype as part of a technology course required for the masters program I am taking.  Skype does not always work flawlessly.  Camera capture speed and internet connection speed are important issues to consider when using Skype and iChat.  I use iChat (the mac internet video conferencing program) with my daughter who is at Cal Poly SLO. My daughter uses iChat with her friends in Hawaii and N.Y. and often experiences poor connections, disrupted streaming, etc.  When these types of video conferencing are used socially, the importance of uninterrupted connection is not as important as when it is used in a classroom situation where it can be disrupptive and frustrating. Yes, there are a few classroom applications where it might be worth incorporating this technology into a lesson, but I agree with Patrick, it should not be used just because it is technology.<br />
As for students who have missed a lecture or demonstration; a better way to address that would be to create a podcast that students could access. Or for teachers to investigate and use some of the excellent podcasts that are already avaliable at iTunes U. One of the greatest advantages of the computer and Internet is the ability to find and use what is already out there rather than trying to &#8216;reinvent the wheel&#8217;</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Tech 20&#8243; by Catherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting.  I think this type of information dissimination really demonstrats the importance of everyone becoming well versed in visual art and design.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting.  I think this type of information dissimination really demonstrats the importance of everyone becoming well versed in visual art and design.</p>
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		<title>Comment on I had an Idea&#8230; by Patrick McNally</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick McNally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the concept of using Skype, or some other video/telephone service for out of classroom communication.

Right now though there&#039;s not a practical application for it. The technology isn&#039;t developed enough nor has the service been widely adapted for it to become a necessity to implement in classrooms.

I think a fundamental flaw that this &quot;Think Tank&quot; is having is that it is trying to think of needs for technology, as opposed to the right way of thinking, which is technology to alleviate our needs. Let&#039;s face it, right now there&#039;s not a dire need for our teachers to make  international calls to other teachers for lectures. Most students can catch up perfectly fine when they come back from being sick. To prove my point entirely the end of this blog post even asks

&quot;Does anyone else have ideas for use of cameras in the classroom or any other transformative program?&quot;

We shouldn&#039;t have to be thinking of uses for technology, we should know what we want to do THEN turn to technology to allow us to meet our demands.

Another point I would like to make in regards to the &quot;Flight&quot; post.

You made a metaphor comparing our investments to technology to that of building a Cathedral. The general point of that metaphor was that we wouldn&#039;t be the ones experiencing the fruits of our efforts, but instead our children and grandchildren would.

While this metaphor certainly sounds impressive and is inspirational it is fundamentally flawed in the technological world.

Technology shares almost no similarities to building a Cathedral. Technology is always moving and constantly improving. Fundamentally you cannot &quot;invest&quot; in technology like you would a Cathedral. We could spend all of the money available on the latest computers and technology and I can almost guarantee that all of it would need to be replaced within five years. Let&#039;s not forget that the towns and cities that built a Cathedral built them because they needed the economic and social benefits that a Cathedral brought. Currently Mater Dei has no need to actively expand our technological infrastructure outside of what is currently provided. I&#039;m sure someday the time will come when we need to expand, but when the time and NEED comes the technology will be available and practical for us to adapt.

There is no need to invest in expanding our technological infrastructure. Especially when there&#039;s currently no need to do so, and if it&#039;s going to have to be replaced in the near future anyways.

This isn&#039;t to say that I am against the efforts of this &quot;Think Tank&quot; to improve Mater Dei&#039;s technological future. I just think the train of thought is currently backwards and we need to take a different approach to doing things.

Respectfully,
Patrick McNally</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the concept of using Skype, or some other video/telephone service for out of classroom communication.</p>
<p>Right now though there&#8217;s not a practical application for it. The technology isn&#8217;t developed enough nor has the service been widely adapted for it to become a necessity to implement in classrooms.</p>
<p>I think a fundamental flaw that this &#8220;Think Tank&#8221; is having is that it is trying to think of needs for technology, as opposed to the right way of thinking, which is technology to alleviate our needs. Let&#8217;s face it, right now there&#8217;s not a dire need for our teachers to make  international calls to other teachers for lectures. Most students can catch up perfectly fine when they come back from being sick. To prove my point entirely the end of this blog post even asks</p>
<p>&#8220;Does anyone else have ideas for use of cameras in the classroom or any other transformative program?&#8221;</p>
<p>We shouldn&#8217;t have to be thinking of uses for technology, we should know what we want to do THEN turn to technology to allow us to meet our demands.</p>
<p>Another point I would like to make in regards to the &#8220;Flight&#8221; post.</p>
<p>You made a metaphor comparing our investments to technology to that of building a Cathedral. The general point of that metaphor was that we wouldn&#8217;t be the ones experiencing the fruits of our efforts, but instead our children and grandchildren would.</p>
<p>While this metaphor certainly sounds impressive and is inspirational it is fundamentally flawed in the technological world.</p>
<p>Technology shares almost no similarities to building a Cathedral. Technology is always moving and constantly improving. Fundamentally you cannot &#8220;invest&#8221; in technology like you would a Cathedral. We could spend all of the money available on the latest computers and technology and I can almost guarantee that all of it would need to be replaced within five years. Let&#8217;s not forget that the towns and cities that built a Cathedral built them because they needed the economic and social benefits that a Cathedral brought. Currently Mater Dei has no need to actively expand our technological infrastructure outside of what is currently provided. I&#8217;m sure someday the time will come when we need to expand, but when the time and NEED comes the technology will be available and practical for us to adapt.</p>
<p>There is no need to invest in expanding our technological infrastructure. Especially when there&#8217;s currently no need to do so, and if it&#8217;s going to have to be replaced in the near future anyways.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t to say that I am against the efforts of this &#8220;Think Tank&#8221; to improve Mater Dei&#8217;s technological future. I just think the train of thought is currently backwards and we need to take a different approach to doing things.</p>
<p>Respectfully,<br />
Patrick McNally</p>
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		<title>Comment on I had an Idea&#8230; by Owen Kuemerle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Owen Kuemerle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, I was wrong in my accusing of Skype. Please pardon my ignorance. My friend educated me about the use of the not so technically demanding part of Skype video, it does not require fairly fast upstream speeds. I was visited the Skype website when you wrote this and mistakenly looked at the highest quality video that Skype utilizes. Again, very sorry about my previous &quot;big mouth&quot; comment, and the ignorance it carried.</description>
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